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"phenotyp" (phenotyp) 08/13/2020 at 01:28 • Filed to: Propane and Propane Accessories

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Charcoal is the least-efficient, least-satisfying, most-wasteful way to cook.

It’s always delicious, though, if you do it right.

But really. Don’t bother. Just cook food. If you’re not making some sort of ceremony, and you’re not looking to preserve ashes... why would you do this. 

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 01:41

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phenotyp > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/13/2020 at 01:44

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I have no problems, but I’m with Hank on this one. 

jminer > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 01:52

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I have 2 grills, one propane for when I just need to cook something fast and the other charcoal for when I want it to taste really good.

I love my komado grill and use lump charcoal in it and it’ll get low enough to smoke or hit high enough to make amazing pizza or sear the hell out of some meat.

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 01:54

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If I’m just grilling for myself (read: most of the time), I’m going with the propane grill, unless there’s a really nice steak involved. Propane just doesn’t get quite as hot.

Also, a  wok plopped on top of a loaded charcoal chimney is the shiznit, if the alternative is using said wok on an electric stove.

phenotyp > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/13/2020 at 02:05

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One can do wonders with a gas range in a kitchen. 

phenotyp > jminer 08/13/2020 at 02:10

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When I want to sear meat to perfection,  I use a salt block. I’m not really cooking good stuff, here, just using a kettle grill for the first time in years and trying to do some decent cooking with it. Time was short, results are ... fine, I guess. 

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 02:12

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Very true, but m y ideal kitchen would have a gas cooktop/electric oven.

phenotyp > jminer 08/13/2020 at 02:13

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I threw one of my iron pans on it, and would have used it for a lot, had there been some time to do it. 

phenotyp > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/13/2020 at 02:14

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Electric oven with gas broiler. 

415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) > jminer 08/13/2020 at 02:33

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Those grills are just the normal ones in Japan, I look at them for sale and I’m sure they just rebrand them for Americans. Most are green and look like a Gojira egg or something. 

Dead_Elvis, Inc. > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 03:10

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Hm , didn’t know that was an option. But I’ve never had a gas oven with a broiler worth a damn, either.

jminer > 415s30 W123TSXWaggoIIIIIIo ( •_•))°) 08/13/2020 at 03:14

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Yeah, I use the akorn Jr, if you're cooking only a couple pounds of meat at a time it's great and only $150.

Discerning > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 04:57

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I enjoy cooking with our Akorn. The charcoal gives it a decent taste and it’s easy to do slow cooks.

I don't understand propane grilling. I might as well just use my gas stove top. 

Discerning > jminer 08/13/2020 at 04:58

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I like my Akor n. Used an egg and an Akorn and saw no reason to spend significantly more for ceramic

functionoverfashion > Dead_Elvis, Inc. 08/13/2020 at 06:11

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I didn’t get why my wife wanted this, but now I done Seent The Light. I have always loved gas stoves and the electric oven is excellent.

The best part is that we can still cook if the power is out.

Manny05x > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 07:04

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I want to start smoking my meats, i am going to get a pellet grill. Charcoal is so difficult to deal with although it does give great flavor.

Merkin Muffley > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 07:30

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Er, taste?

Merkin Muffley > jminer 08/13/2020 at 07:31

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That mesquite charcoal is sublime.

The old ways are the best ways. 

facw > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 08:25

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Though my apartment complex has several gas grills (not actually sure if they are propane or natural gas), I mostly just sous vide steaks and then sear in a cast iron skillet. Burgers frequently just get cooked in a pan. I don’t think I’ve cooked with charcoal since my parents sold my late grandfather’s house on the C ape (charcoal cooking fits much better with the slow pace of a vacation I think).

TorqueToYield > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 09:00

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I’ve been using a charcoal W eber kettle for a few years now after using only propane and I’m a convert .

It takes me maybe 10 min longer to get the coals going, but once they’re going I have way more control over the fire. I can arrange the coals in dozens of different ways to arrange the heat zones how I want, I can also use more or less coals to control temperature.

I still have my propane grill but unless I’m really pressed for time I find myself always using charcoal.

phenotyp > facw 08/13/2020 at 09:36

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Burgers in a pan?!  Blasphemy no matter your choice of flame!

phenotyp > Manny05x 08/13/2020 at 09:37

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Pellet grills are great. 

facw > phenotyp 08/13/2020 at 09:39

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Want to know something even worse? They often aren’t even real meat...

Though frankly beef tends to do better in the pan than the various plant-based burgers, which seem to be more prone to sticking (and fall apart more when unstuck).

jminer > Discerning 08/13/2020 at 10:18

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Same - they wear out after about 2 years but that’s fine for $150.

onlytwowheels > facw 08/13/2020 at 10:20

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Many apartment communities ban gas and charcoal grills as a fire safety precaution. Electric grills were generally acceptable at most.

Discerning > jminer 08/13/2020 at 10:26

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What wears out after 2 years? I've had mine for at least 5 years and it has held up better than my neighbor's egg. Mine is the larger one. Has anything gone wrong with your Jr.?

jminer > Discerning 08/13/2020 at 10:48

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The grates rusted out of the bottom of mine. Probably my fault since I leave the not completely burnt charcoal in it to finish later and let it get rained on a few times.

I also use mine a lot, usually 2-3 times a week year round so it gets a lot of heat cycles put through it. I imagine it’s quite hard on the unit when it’s 20F outside and I heat it up to cook something .

phenotyp > facw 08/13/2020 at 10:52

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I’ve had the same problem, I’ll admit. I haven’t tried Beyond burgers yet, but every other plant-based patty I’ve done actually goes in the toaster oven first, then onto a hot pan to finish.

How’s that for blaspehmy.

Discerning > jminer 08/13/2020 at 17:44

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That’s surprising. Ours is covered from rain and sun but I keep the coals in it too. I wonder if the manufacturer would have sent you new grates. Did you contact them?